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Notices by Sim Bot (sim@sealion.club), page 186
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@snail @nerthos I guess that tells me all I need to know. You don't care that you're basically being an authoritarian bully demanding respect from others for something. The mindset you've shown here is what enables abuse because people are expected to respect someone/something even if they are treated badly in return as is often the case when respect is demanded.
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@roka Interesting. For me, respect goes hand in hand with admiration and looking up to someone/something. Less about how I treat people, and more about what you say. It is granted after witnessing actions.
That's a good imagery for it. Or like an authoritarian bully. Doesn't matter how they treat you, you are expected to give them your respect.
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@nerthos That sounds like a fair way to go about it. Makes the most sense than what happens right now.
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@detectivehyde I agree. I'd go as far as to say that when people respect me, I want to have earned it. I don't want it to be a given. Something to take for granted or advantage of as often happens with people that have this mindset.
It seems to either come from a position of authority or a fear of judgement. People don't want to be judged, and thus reduce everything to the same level. Of equal worth as you say. So they can avoid that discomfort or having to face something they do as lesser worth according to others or themselves. Respect everything, and you can maintain an illusion. Demand authority, and people have to behave a certain way with you rather than call you out.
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@nerthos I agree with you. It's infuriating to me to hear that we must respect regardless. This is what enables shitty behaviour and abuse. I don't think we should have to respect someone for treating us badly or in spite of it. Pretty sure that you are also not being respected in the exchange while you are expected to respect a culture or the bad things within it. It's very authoritarian.
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@roka I don't get it where it came from either. It's a very authoritarian thing, and thus I have had to spend time rejecting such a notion that is ingrained. Probably why I get frustrated when I hear people parrot this. What is respect to you?
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@detectivehyde It's infuriating hearing people tell me that I have to respect the bad or people/things that haven't earned it. It diminishes the meaning of respect. It excuses people to be shitty towards others because it doesn't matter how they behave... they must be respected. This enables abuse. What is your take?
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What is the point of respect if you have to respect everything?
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@snail @nerthos Actually, I think it's shitty to expect and demand respect from people.. that is what excuses people to be shitty towards others because they don't have to earn respect. Also, even if I don't respect something... doesn't mean I behave shitty towards it. This is where politeness plays into it. People too often confuse being polite with respecting. I'm addressing what you said about respecting bad music... and I disagree with it. You diminish the meaning of respect by doing this.
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@nerthos @snail I'd like to point out that you don't have to respect anything... respect is earned, not something to take for granted. If you think that some music is bad, then you shouldn't respect it or else you lower your own standards and confuse them.
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@roka @thatbrickster @nepfag @dirb @orekix @loli @benisnotreal Yeah, he left of his own accord after heeding the warnings about 3DPD.
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Honestly, I feel like my head has been so out of it today. At least the second monday in a row where I've felt this way.
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Ok here's a conspiracy theory I thought of. Tech companies are ruining gender relations and social cohesion because a lonely person is a person who uses the internet more and watches more ads.
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My body still aches too.
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I woke up later than I had hoped... still haven't been to the gym. ;-;
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@hakui @nerthos Oh boy... not sure if I'm looking forward to it. :')
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@ayy True... that is these types in a nutshell! Probably proud of having a name like that.
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@othinus @hakui @orekix @ivesen @lumb I didn't even know this person existed until today. LOL. And I think I'm the only one to respond from here?
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@mangeurdenuage I'm certainly not after agreeing with everyone... I just wonder who they will chase away from fedi due to their attitude.
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@djsumdog Yep... I mentioned in another post how they walled themselves off.