Notices tagged with ux, page 4

@ultimape
> I'm not a big fan of email though

Fair enough, and I doubt you're alone. That's what I suggest making it opt-in. But I hope to see the #UX of email improve if we are successful in spearheading a general return to federated services on the net.

> it could take a significant engineering effort to retrofit.

Not as significant as building a decent #UX around DMs in each client.

@noorul yes. So if you're specifically looking for a service offered by a non-profit or a cooperative, Wire isn't that. But if you just want a provider that exists to serve its users, not shareholders, Wire ticks that box (it doesn't have shareholders, just private owners). If you want a non-profit, I suggest you check out #DigitalCafes like #RiseUp, #FramaSoft, #Disroot etc. Disroot might be the best option for your needs, as they have a big focus on improving the #UX of hosted #FreeCode tech.

@highfellow this is exactly the role I've been trying to play since the mid-90s. I'm more of "techie" now that I was then, thanks to years of reading and testing, but I'm still a "power user", not a developer or engineer. I'm really keen to learn more about formal #UX practice, so I can be more helpful.

(BTW please untag me if you repond to Shamar. I have them on mute and I could do without half a frustrating nonsensical conversation with them in my notifications. Thanks ;-)

#SoftwareFreedom is important, but just as we can't expect everyone to code their own software from scratch, we can't expect them to transition to freedom-respecting software that they find impossibly confusing to use. #UX matters, and we need to help #FreeCode developers learn to create better UX, and be welcoming when people with UX experience get involved in free code projects.
https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/who-cares-if-code-is-free-ux-and-free-software/

Slightly put off by the third link—which is a live link to the page the user is *currently on*. Why do websites ever do that? Do they think I'm going to print their site? But they don't even have a url, so that wouldn't work …

#ui #ux

@xj9 #Wire is ready for use by non-geeks *now*, on all major platforms (desktop, mobile, and web). Name a single federated chat system that has clients with the #UX polish of Wire across the same range of platforms, clients that can reliably support voice/video chat and file transfer. Clients you could realistically recommend to your Grandpa who lives in a cabin in the woods as a #Skype replacement. The hard truth is neither #XMPP nor #Matrix clients are ready for primetime.

@LWFlouisa
> Also, why discord, and not matrix? It seems like paying to be spied on to me.

No idea, I've never tried #Discord, but I know dedicated gamers who hangs out there a lot. I'd guess that as in most cases of #DataFarm vs. #FreeNetworkService, it's a case of the datafarm having a more pleasing #UX.

@alcinnz I'll look into it. I really like what I've seen of #ElementaryOS. It has some of the best #UX in the desktop GNU/Linux world. Just a shame they don't have a #FreeCode only spin that could be endorsed by the #FSF :-(

@stevenroose Great! @Purism is one of a handful of companies that about *both* #SoftwareFreedom and good #UX.
https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/who-cares-if-code-is-free-ux-and-free-software/

@stevenroose I haven't tried ProtonMail, no. From memory, I tried to register at one point, and was asked for a phone number, or some money, or something else I wasn't prepared to give them just to set up a test account.

> Losing the key is losing the e-mail though..

#UX fail :( Imagine is the same was true for your car, or your house.

@stevenroose email is a not a secure federated comms network, any more than the web is. Yes, you can build a layer of security on top of email with PGP, but in my experience that takes a great deal of mucking around, and severely degrades the #UX.
https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/usingpgp

@valerauko part of this may be because we're still federating with some apps over #OStatus, because we're still waiting for their #ActivityPub implementations to be rolled out. All I'm saying is it's a really important part of providing a smooth #UX across a diversely federated network.
@aral

@valerauko the #UX people expect (from our experience of the birdsite) is this; when I click on any post, the UI immediately places it in the context of its parents (the string of posts it's replying to), and its children (replies already made to it). Now that I'm on a Mastodon server, this mostly seems to happen. So I'm guess that when threads get segmented, it's when users on both Masto *and* non-Masto instances are involved.
@aral

@jcbrand
> There are very few UI and UX designers active in the FOSS world (relative to the amount of developers and to their involvement in proprietary software).

This is true. But one reason for this is that #UX people who try to get involved strike attitudes like this:
https://cmpwn.com/@sir/101234103729898183

... and this:
https://cmpwn.com/@sir/101234107271965132

... and this:
https://cmpwn.com/@sir/101233838665868318

We need to make the free world *much* more welcoming and inclusive to people with skills other than programming.
@z428

@aemon This is appalling #UX. The #SoftwareFreedom movement can and must do better. Victim-blaming people for staying with Google and the rest of the datafarms is a cop-out.
@bob @jcbrand @Aerdan

@z428 @jcbrand come hang out with the #OpenAppEcosystem group. Folks from a bunch of different free code apps, hosted services, and tech coops gather around the watering hole there, talking about the nuts and bolts of how to solve the problems we have been talking about here (improving #UX, sustainable funding, tech choices etc):
https://www.loomio.org/g/exAKrBUp/open-app-ecosystem

@Goffi let's start with the #UX we want to create. "Social media" is a boundaryless, public space (like a "town square"). I say stuff, and although I might @mention particular people, anyone can listen and reply. "Chat", which is a bounded, private space (like a "room"), in which there might be just two people talking to each other, or a group. The social psychology of these two situations is *totally* different.
@js @jcbrand @jaywink @ayy

@jcbrand just out of curiosity, have you looked into the way #Diaspora has used XMPP? My understanding is that they built a plug-in that allows users to interact with a separate XMPP server via the Diaspora web interface. This means that podmins who want XMPP chat to be available have to install both Diaspora itself *and* an XMPP server, and strap it all together. It also means the #UX of the integration is ... well ... clunky and frustrating (last time I tried it anyway).
@ayy

It's a bit more complicated than that @aemon . People can't just pick another XMPP server, login with their Google account, and have it smoothly integrated with GMail. So from that POV, they are stuck with whatever Google picks. If even a single #FreeCode email client integrated XMPP chat, folks could have switched to that (even while keeping their GMail address), but there wasn't one, and there still isn't. #Thunderbird is trying but the #UX of the integration needs work
@bob @jcbrand @Aerdan