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@maiyannah
Dragon Age? :O!
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I've begun to always spot and have my attention drawn to the :O face in people typing Dragon Age: Origins as DA:O and this is very distracting.
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@maiyannah
(P.S. Super love you lots you're wonderful)
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@maiyannah
This is very true. (Even if I'm still sad about Paul Mcgann not being in that one Doctor Who special :p)
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@lertsenem
You'd be surprised how many people would claim it's very much not. Unironically.
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@gameragodzilla
Have ya seen Public Enemies btw?
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@maiyannah
It's pretty good yeah.
Tho to briefly speak on the film, I like John Hurt in it.
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@gameragodzilla
In Public Enemies he injects himself a bunch with it, and does his general egomania, it all sort of works.
Well then he decides he's pretty fine with the world ending because he'll just make sure him and Waller are the only survivors, then repopulate the Earth as it's ruler, using Waller as the baby momma.
...Yeah.
Don't get me wrong, it's presented as a "it doesn't matter that the world ends as long as he survives, cos he's that egocentric, and Waller is just useful cos he would need to repopulate somehow and she's the closest female at the current time"
So it does...fit his character in a sense, it's just up to the viewer whether he'd 'snap' to that degree.
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@gameragodzilla
The same, Frank Miller just happens to sometimes have decent ideas. Year One is still full of your typical Frank Miller moments. Catwoman's a dominatrix, Gordon is unrelentingly brutal, etc. Which don't massively fit the characters, it's just a good enough concept as a story to be decent -despite- those bits.
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Oh and on that mention of Supes and Batman duos.
Superman and Batman: Public Enemies. I watched the other night. Really good film.
Definitely a bit weird in bits. Waller isn't portrayed very well, Lex is...egomania to an utterly insane degree that does or doesn't cross the line depending on how you feel about the character.
But...it portrays Bats and Supes well as characters, they work together well, and have good chemistry, and...that's what you're there for ain't it?
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@maiyannah @gameragodzilla
That's why their buddy cop style bits together work, and the full team things don't, really.
In their 'duo' stuff. You get the best of both worlds.
This fails in the team stuff as I mentioned, because there's too many to properly focus on them, so they just end up, as you mention, plot armour and "Why can't Supes win this himself"
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Batman Year One gets such a good reception cos in that, he's still a cool superhero, but he's inexperienced as hell and fucks up a whole lot. It pushes his flaws to their limits, in a believable way (after all, he's just starting his mad crusade)
It's pretty much the perfect demonstration of his appeal. As a concept at the very least.
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@maiyannah @gameragodzilla
Supes is...ehh (I know George loves him and that's totally okay, just stating opinions here)
As you say, he was just good at everything. His...added depth over time, seems to come across a lot as one of two things.
1. He becomes crappy when exposed to a weakness, but that becomes a bit of a bad guy deus ex machina. "Gee the guy he'd beat in two seconds happened to get their hands on kyrptonite! Ain't that convinient?"
2. When he's actually properly challenged beyond that...for some reason they decide those are the times to put him in team-ups. If it's someone Supes genuinely struggles with the writers seem to be quite "alright time to call in other heroes." But...this works out bad for both. Cos Supes -could- beat them if he pushed himself, but instead relies on the team, and it kinda ruins other heroes by proxy because they get ridiculous power-boosts just to be on the same level as Superman during, which rubs off badly when their interesting bits are the flaws they have -not- being overly powerful (like Batman)
Also just as a final side point, they added the flaw in a few places of him becoming kinda cocky because of how powerful he is, and getting fucked over for it, and fans -backlashed like all hell- against that since he wasn't the perfect boy scout anymore. That...is quite an ehhhh thing. Genuine character flaw that makes sense? Not in our comics, apparently.
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@maiyannah
That's the thing yeah. The more regular criminal mobster types (Falcone, Black Mask) you can have the wider police force take on. Then the ones who are smart but not the best physically, like Riddler as you mention, you can always say Gordon or Renee manages to outsmart just by being a good detective.
But...as also noted...yeah it's just "Villain of the week!" and all the big names thrown in.
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@maiyannah
Exactly my point yeah, hence my "what's really the point without Batman?" thingy
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@maiyannah
:o but you're super lovely
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Hi.
Just wanted to note.
@maiyannah is oh so lovely.
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I don't really see what's particulary interesting about Gotham the TV show.
Batman picks off 'basic' level criminals pretty easily cos he's Batman. So...logical thought when first hearing of that show, "Okay so this showcases the GCPD dealing with the crime families that thrived when Batman wasn't about."
But...Gotham is -packed full- of different takes of Batman villains.
Two...pretty big issues with this.
1. A lot of what makes Batman interesting is the whole "his presence sustains and creates his own rogues gallery" which is something many stories have explored and still do (Most recently this month) so this whole thing...defeats the point.
2. None of their full potential can be explored, cos if they're -too- threatening beyond "a basic police force can't stop them" then they don't work, Batman ain't around after all.
The show...has a fanbase tho. I wonder what they see in it.
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@maiyannah
You can indeed, and Witcher...aha...is not...quite one of those
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@maiyannah
Yeah...
That debate is a bit of a walking on broken glass one a lot of the time.
But...yes, The Witcher is very much a "male power fantasy" but gets a lot of defense cos...well it turns out, by utter surprise, lot of people like power fantasy's that specifically cater to them.
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