@Elizafox @CobaltVelvet charybdis++ will likely cause that to stabilize quickly
Notices by kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org), page 68
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 19:50:21 EST
kaniini
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 19:48:03 EST
kaniini
@Trev then creative finally caved and released a GPL driver a year after that
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 19:47:14 EST
kaniini
thatโs really the killer feature of matrix, they have the ability to register for push notifications and then apps can relay those push notifications to the phones of their users through their usual mechanisms
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 19:45:10 EST
kaniini
@Trev then about a year later OSS4 was released with a driver that was non-gpl but foss
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 19:42:14 EST
kaniini
@Trev and assembled a website containing that info. then creative found out and sued me.
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 19:41:20 EST
kaniini
@Trev well basically i documented a lot of behaviour by tracing the pci read/writes of the binary linux driver
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 19:23:41 EST
kaniini
remember that time i got sued by creative labs because i tried to write a driver for my x-fi soundcard
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 18:17:37 EST
kaniini
there's smart activism and then there's dumb activism.
lets look at the windows OEM license issue as an example.
smart activism = buying a computer that does not bundle a windows license (librem, 'business-grade' dell/hp, etc.)
dumb activism = buying a computer and then calling up and demanding a windows license refund.
then there is fake activism, which is what the people on social media do.
activism requires strategy to be most effective, but more importantly, it requires actual work be done to be effective at all.
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 17:43:04 EST
kaniini
mammon and it's design of translating messages into a representative state transform, i still believe is the appropriate way to make ircd handle extensibility.
a realworld example of what was learned from mammon can be seen in charybdis 4's msgbufs (which while still very tied to messages, is still a fairly flexible structure).
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Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan: (elizafox@mst3k.interlinked.me)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 17:39:29 EST
Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan:
I think another part of IRC being user-hostile is that most server software is horrifically inflexible and rigid. Virtually every ircd in active development was never really designed to do much more than what it does now. So bolting anything new on is like trying to put lipstick on a pig.
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 17:39:50 EST
kaniini
yes, in general, despite ircv3's current hatefest, the charybdis team was actually the one most open to trying to prototype the proposed specs.
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Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan: (elizafox@mst3k.interlinked.me)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 17:37:02 EST
Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan:
They would rather bicker over STS, because proposals of any substance or genuine improvement basically die on arrival because one of two things happens with every proposal:
1) Major stakeholder is like "THIS SUCKS I AM NEVER IMPLEMENTING THIS"
2) Insistence that "THEY SHOULD CONFORM TO WHAT WE'RE DOING"
and I care about IRC but I just, I can't deal with that kind of "standardisation".
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Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan: (elizafox@mst3k.interlinked.me)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 17:34:47 EST
Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan:
IRCv3 would rather worry more about STS (the solution: DEPRECATE PLAINTEXT, EVERY DECENT NETWORK SUPPORTS SSL) than solve real problems
I tried to fix numerics, and I got almost nowhere.
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Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan: (elizafox@mst3k.interlinked.me)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 17:33:44 EST
Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan:
the IRC development community (mostly server-side, but a bit client-side too) is full of huge egos and people with their own impossible visions of the protocol, and finding a neutral broker everyone can accept is basically fucking impossible
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Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan: (elizafox@mst3k.interlinked.me)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 17:32:30 EST
Elly, nasty enby :heart_pan:
Every time someone says "why doesn't someone just modernise and fix IRC?" I just smh
'cause we tried.
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 17:00:29 EST
kaniini
@mdfrg @awilfox @SLRock @vertigo
now, when it comes to the IRC paramilitary hierarchy, it is actually worse.
because if you get banned from #freenode, as an example, then other channel operators may ban you as well because clearly "you are a troll, you got banned from #freenode."
so this paramilitary hierarchy extends downward into the communities themselves, and the actions of the paramilitary hierarchy extend downward as well. for example, there are many channels that have `+b $c:#freenode` on their banlists, which means if you are banned on #freenode you are automatically banned from the other channels too.
that bad advice comes about as a result of overzealous channel operators feeling that they should "protect" their channels from people they most likely are never going to have any actual interaction with. because they are "trolls" afterall.
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 16:50:27 EST
kaniini
that explains so much about hypercard
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Kit Redgrave โ (self-signed) (kitredgrave@gs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 16:47:04 EST
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 16:45:06 EST
kaniini
that part, i don't know for sure. but it does mean that google still controls the behaviour of electron.
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kaniini (kaniini@mastodon.dereferenced.org)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 16:36:25 EST
kaniini
it is based on CEF which is based on Chromium which is controlled by Google.
turtles all the way down.