@ron @PinkCathodeCat @brennen @hairylarry sounds like you're in great hands with ron :) ill lurk.
Notices by Hairy Larry (hairylarry@mastodon.social), page 7
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Dion Moult (thinkmoult@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 11:19:16 EDT Dion Moult
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Hairy Larry (hairylarry@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 11:23:28 EDT Hairy Larry
@ron @thinkMoult @PinkCathodeCat @brennen
Thanks. I'll do some back of the envelope calculations and see if I can set it up with Mirrors. I really like the RAID redundancy and I am glad it's an option with ZFS. This sounds like it might check every box in my backup server wish list.
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Ron Houk (ron@glammr.us)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 11:17:36 EDT Ron Houk
Yes. Mirrors provide data redundancy like RAID. You get more flexibility at the cost of storage. There is also RAID available in zfs called raidz as well. It is not recommended to build zfs on top of raid. ZFS appears to be better than hardware RAID at data integrity
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Hairy Larry (hairylarry@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 11:15:21 EDT Hairy Larry
@ron @thinkMoult @PinkCathodeCat @brennen
I found this that explains some of these questions.
https://www.howtogeek.com/272220/how-to-install-and-use-zfs-on-ubuntu-and-why-youd-want-to/
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Hairy Larry (hairylarry@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 11:12:54 EDT Hairy Larry
@ron @thinkMoult @PinkCathodeCat @brennen
So does this provide data redundancy like RAID? Or is it just to get a larger total drive? Do you intall ZFS on top of RAID? All new to me.
One more. If I have two ZFS drives can I at a later time join them in a zpool?
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snowdusk (snowdusk@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 09:26:38 EDT snowdusk
@cosullivan they love telling stories... mostly weird hahahha 😂
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Christina ✅ 🇨🇦 (cosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jul-2018 14:38:55 EDT Christina ✅ 🇨🇦
@snowdusk_ I loved hearing "Ma Baker" too. These Boney M lyrics: "they killed him until he was dead" and "she knew how to die!" hysterical
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snowdusk (snowdusk@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jul-2018 14:18:40 EDT snowdusk
@cosullivan haha it's my favourite Boney M. song! 😅 He has more really good songs
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Christina ✅ 🇨🇦 (cosullivan@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jul-2018 02:37:28 EDT Christina ✅ 🇨🇦
My earworm since @snowdusk_ played it on #aNONradio earlier this week. This video has it all: disco beat, bell-like vocals, dancing, shiny costumes and inane lyrics that made my preteen self double over with giggles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYnVYJDxu2Q
"Rasputin" -- Boney M
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Hairy Larry (hairylarry@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 11:06:03 EDT Hairy Larry
@ron @thinkMoult @PinkCathodeCat @brennen
I'm not sure what you mean by mirrors here.
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Ron Houk (ron@glammr.us)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 11:04:57 EDT Ron Houk
I would recommend sticking with mirrors though. They are easier to upgrade down the road. ZFS will grow automatically in to the size of the smallest drive in the mirror
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Hairy Larry (hairylarry@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 11:05:24 EDT Hairy Larry
@ron @thinkMoult @PinkCathodeCat @brennen
So could I back up to a set of Blu-Ray discs? Will it do incremental backups too? The optical backup is another thing I'm missing. I do a lot of media work and have large data sets of photos, video, and audio. And they all have their own backup procedures but again a full recovery would be problematic.
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Ron Houk (ron@glammr.us)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 11:01:15 EDT Ron Houk
@hairylarry
If you're interested in backing up your ZFS system sanoid comes with an application called syncoid that syncs the snapshots between ZFS pools. ZFS has an utility called ZFS send that allows you to send a ZFS snapshot to another zfs pool. This can also be done incrementally with "-i" which is what syncoid is doing. -
Hairy Larry (hairylarry@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 11:01:36 EDT Hairy Larry
@thinkMoult @ron @PinkCathodeCat @brennen
Yeah. If it doesn't work I still have the original drive ready to swap back in. And right, start with a smaller data set.
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Dion Moult (thinkmoult@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 11:00:01 EDT Dion Moult
@hairylarry @ron @PinkCathodeCat @brennen it sounds just fine in principle :) of course like all technical things the devil is in the detail. So maybe do a few small tests first! Im sure the folks on IRC can help too.
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Hairy Larry (hairylarry@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 10:54:40 EDT Hairy Larry
@thinkMoult @ron @PinkCathodeCat @brennen
ZFS looks really good to me. My backup server has numerous 2 and 3 TB Hitachi drives and I always keep a spare. I use Xubuntu 16.04 and ZFS is supported. So I could put on a new drive, format it ZFS, copy the files over to it, and fix my backup routine to be rsync mirror instead of rsync backup.
Does that sound right to you?
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Dion Moult (thinkmoult@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jul-2018 10:42:43 EDT Dion Moult
@hairylarry @ron @PinkCathodeCat @brennen sounds like you want ZFS. It does exactly what you're asking for. I rsync to a ZFS filesystem and then if anything gets deleted, I go back in time in the ZFS filesystem to get it back.
If you don't have ZFS you can do the same with rsnapshot.
In fact, you can do the same with plain old rsync and hard links. Hard links are amazing. Basically the file always exists until all pointers to the inode are deleted.
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Hairy Larry (hairylarry@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 23:45:49 EDT Hairy Larry
Yeah, I tend to think along the lines of the files system being the database and each file is a small data structure consisting of filename, timestamp,(title,content,links) where the stuff in () is the text and links might be filenames to parent files and comment files.
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Hairy Larry (hairylarry@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 22:41:28 EDT Hairy Larry
I enjoyed your post.
I am also a new SDF user. I went ARPA with the one time fee of $36. I was on a free but underused account for years (I forgot all about it). I am using SDF to store my public text files available from gopher or from a php web interface.
I'm hairylarry there just like I am here.
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Hairy Larry (hairylarry@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Mar-2018 09:40:05 EST Hairy Larry
I set up a gopher site on SDF. Mostly song lyrics so far. SFF is scheduled to go up later today.
gopher://sdf.org/1/users/hairylarry
Or read on gopherproxy from your browser.