Notices by Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz), page 127

The NZ Police Commissioner is getting a right grilling from Lisa Owen on #RadioNZ. He's sticking to the key messages the PR team, but she's making it very difficult for him.

@funkwhale @musicman @craigmaloney

#CCMusic community #Opsound.org are preparing to shut up shop. #LastChangeToSee ...

@pootz
> This is all a great case for organizing tech workers to make the demand for publically funded and licensed software

... or organizing anyone who cares. In NZ we got a formal government commitment to release any code written by people working for the public service under free licenses. We did it as an open, civil society coalition (ie #SoftwareFreedom geeks and our #CreativeCommons mates, and a few forward-looking folks from the #Greens)
https://www.ict.govt.nz/guidance-and-resources/open-government/new-zealand-government-open-access-and-licensing-nzgoal-framework/nzgoal-se/
@enkiv2 #NZGOAL-SE

@pootz
> Doesn't matter if someone would prefer to pay you if your model isn't profitable

It doesn't have to be profitable, as long as it can cover its costs. The main cost in running a software-based business is paying staff, which is why it's a great candidate for worker-owned coops. You need to convince people to pay in $ rather than privacy invasion, so also a good candidate for consumer coops. Have you read 'Ours to Hack and Own'?
https://www.opendemocracy.net/oliver-sylvester-bradley/ours-to-hack-and-own
@alcinnz @mattcropp @mike_hales

@pootz
> Doesn't matter if someone would prefer to pay you if your model isn't profitable

It doesn't have to be profitable, as long as it can cover its costs. The main cost in running a software-based business is paying staff, which is why it's an excellent candidate for worker-owned coops. You need to convince people to pay in $ rather than privacy invasion, so also a great candidate for consumer coops. Have you read 'Ours to Hack and Own'?
https://www.opendemocracy.net/oliver-sylvester-bradley/ours-to-hack-and-own
@alcinnz @mattcropp

@alcinnz I'm all for this, but it's unlikely to happen while the people who would have to legislate for it are having lunch with the lobbyists for the US #datafarms. If we can surface the foam of small-medium businesses that respect user freedom, and increase that market (more reliable services for users, more secure jobs for tech workers, more quality #FreeCode), that could contribute to building the political will to enforce anti-trust laws against at least the US datafarms.
@pootz

@pootz The workers who make iPhones have bigger problems to deal with than improving their UX or environmental impact. You can't just march into China and start organizing them either, unless you want some late night knocks on the door by the Police. I agree that organizing tech workers is a piece of the puzzle, but only one. I know lots of people in tech coops desperate for customers, so organizing customers to buy from coops empowers workers. It's complicated.
@clacke @aral

@ente me too! I think it's because so many of us now work from home, or #hotdesk, and the #fediverse provides a sense of pseudo-community that makes up for not having a consistent group of colleagues to geek out with. Back in #Aotearoa they have lots of 'geek drinks' events, which scratch a similar itch in an arguably healthier way (if you put aside the alcohol consumption involved ;)
@snowdrift @clacke @enkiv2

@nemeciii JS gets a lot of heat from UNIX greybeards, but I suspect that in at least some cases, it's engineers pointing out that gaffer tape is no use for building bridges, which is true, but ignore the many, *many* things gaffer tape *is* good for ;-)
@z428 @jcbrand @shura

@msh how might this affect the roll-out of #GNU #Taler in the USA?
@007

@msh whenever I catch myself doing that, I always reminded of the #XKCD about people being "wrong on the internet" ;-P I end the conversation, and if they try to continue it, I mute them (and if necessary block them) until they lose interest. I'm certain it's making me less of a dipshit ...
@ifixcoinops

@distantkay let's get them here!
@switchingsocial

@colomar oh for sure, I don't consider either inherently trustworthy. It depends on exactly what the situation is, and as you say, what country you're in. There are definitely times when the personal and the commercial *do* have a common interest against the governmental, what I'm saying is that corporate interests point to that to make an 'all trout are fish therefore all fish are trout' claim that our interest and their are always aligned.

@stevenroose that's why I haven't yet put any real money into crypto-tokens ;-) The one time I set up a wallet to experiment with receiving donations on my blog, I forgot to backup the wallet/ key (I don't even know), so any donations I got are lost forever I guess.

It would be fascinating to apply this same research method to #Aotearoa. We can guess where some of our most distressed communities might be, but it would be great to have data we can hold under government noses when they mouth platitudes about addressing child poverty:
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/america-distressed-communities/

@wiktor OK. Is it something I can use as an end user, right now, or do I have to convince my webmail host(s) to integrate it with their existing systems? Also, there's some question as to whether encryption over the web can be secure, see the thread starting here:
https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/101268634862177001
@stevenroose

@stevenroose Great! @Purism is one of a handful of companies that about *both* #SoftwareFreedom and good #UX.
https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/who-cares-if-code-is-free-ux-and-free-software/

Tried the Movim client on my ancient Android (4.2.2) first. Couldn't even login. #UXFail :(